tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7588057111495513132.post2942627517348277481..comments2023-09-28T07:04:37.389-07:00Comments on Utah Wingmen for Property Tax RE-FORUM ( REFORM ): Contact Information & local Representative "Political" mailerUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7588057111495513132.post-81775845677354980522008-02-02T22:47:00.000-08:002008-02-02T22:47:00.000-08:00Go ahead and throw that hat in the ring Mr. Machma...Go ahead and throw that hat in the ring Mr. Machman, we need a voice of integrity in that pig pen called the State Legislature.<BR/><BR/>I'll vote for you. Heck, I even do it twice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7588057111495513132.post-91377090522143201622008-02-02T20:47:00.000-08:002008-02-02T20:47:00.000-08:00I have made no secret that I do not feel we have b...I have made no secret that I do not feel we have been represented well the past two years. It did not start out that way until I did some digging. But after what I have seen and learned since August I must say we need better in the legislature because we are better. I have been asking around to find a new candidate but as one person who was previously politically involved said, "Machman, I felt like I was attending a meeting of an organized crime syndicate.", referring to County and State caucuses, conventions and meetings. <BR/><BR/>I think in order to restore credibility and the dignity of our legislature we must consider removing legislators who have failed us. Failed us by taking and harboring significant conflicts of interests in their decisions, proposed legislation, and behavior. By representing apparent bought and paid for special interests without regard for us "little people" who elected them. We need to replace those who are a big part of the problem with those who will serve all the various Districts and all those who reside within them and not just the special interests. Special interests who by the way contribute annually almost a million dollars to tax free campaign war chests, not to mention hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of free tickets, trips, meals, and gifts. <BR/><BR/>It is both astounding and depressing to realize most (not all) of our legislators are on the take and do not seem to think it is wrong. They simply are in denial and rationalize this graft and corruption whisking it away as if it were nothing more than a "warning parking ticket". But they are parked on our expectations for honesty. And by their behavior, have so alienated the average citizen, cynicism has replaced civic duty. So much so no one even bothers to show up when taxing agencies hold public hearings. We just say, "What the heck..they are going to raise our taxes whether I go down there or not.<BR/><BR/>We have unwittingly become participants in bad government by allowing our cynicism to replace our citizenship and civic responsibilities. This can not continue. Neither the out of control spending, ivory tower attitudes of some officials and legislators, nor the indifference of us ordinary people. When we become apathetic and are not involved there are always special interests which will step in and fill the void. Our power at the polls trumps special interest lobbyists but only if we become engaged and involved. So I will ask you again and again to join me and become involved and engaged.<BR/><BR/>Read this blog, read the Weber County Forum, and the Ogden Valley Forum. Read the Valley News and the Standard Examiner. Sign the petition against the developers who want to make our lives miserable and help line their pockets through even more taxation. Fight like Hell to make House Bill 466 go away and quickly. <BR/><BR/>And understand who passed it 66 to 0 in the first place and why. Understand why House Bill 296, Approval of Subdivisions, almost passed at the same time. It too was a developer friendly law by making it much easirer to go around the will of the people and their appointed and elected officials. Join me and all seniors across America in our disgust for and disapproval of "Deferred Taxation", then ask who is continuing to sponsor it and why? If no one will use it why is it being secreted in the House for two years? Who wants it and why? Be involved, become engaged and ask questions. <BR/><BR/>So, if there is anyone out there without "a dog in any particular hunt" (meaning without conflict of interest) and who is equipped with basic morality, character and respect for ethics in governmental affairs. With a history of selfless service and desire to actually serve the public. Please send me a personal email. If not I may have to apply himself. My hat is off and I am so far just shaking my head in dismay. You will decide whether or not my hat gets tossed into the ring.Minor Machmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02724920111398658234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7588057111495513132.post-72161954802355939462008-02-02T17:35:00.000-08:002008-02-02T17:35:00.000-08:00Tom-1You certainly seem to have Froerer and the Re...Tom-1<BR/><BR/>You certainly seem to have Froerer and the Republicans that control the State Legislature Pegged with a capital "P".<BR/><BR/>How about you throwing your hat in the ring to replace him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7588057111495513132.post-48412649903432643652008-02-01T00:57:00.000-08:002008-02-01T00:57:00.000-08:00I predict that Gage Froerer and his Republican mas...I predict that Gage Froerer and his Republican masters in the Legislature & Real Estate lobby will continue to pay a lot of disingenuous lip service to property tax reform, and then when all is said and done there will have been a lot more said than done. <BR/><BR/>They are not serious about any kind of spending controls. Without some discipline in spending they will have an ever increasing need for money from the citizens and there will be no real tax relief of any kind.<BR/><BR/>They will make a lot of talk about property tax reform but in the end any meaningful bills addressing it will be buried in committee just like SB29 was this week. The masters of the Republican's in the legislature are also masters of slight of hand tricks. They create the illusion that they really care about their constituents, but it is just a false front. They are only loyal to their own little GOP club, not the citizens. They really don't care if some one's grandma gets kicked to the curb because their policies have taxed her out of her home. They say they care, but it is just more lip service.<BR/><BR/>They will talk a great game, they will show faux compassion, but in the end they will only put a band aid or two on this cancerous property tax that is bringing so much pain to so many. Then they will go into the fall election bragging with straight faces about how they fought for us and won. Yes, they really are that cheeky.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately there is a huge number of voters in Utah who are uninformed about the true nature of these predators and cannot see past the "Republican" label. They will forget about their actions and vote for them based upon their false promises.<BR/><BR/>There are even people in the Valley who will be seriously and negatively affected by this Powder Mountain fiasco and who come November will vote for Froerer because he is a Republican. This in spite of the fact that he contributed significantly to the legislator who authored the legislation that made this Powder Mountain outrage possible in the first place. He also voted in favor of it. <BR/><BR/>We do not have a viable two party system in Utah, and until we do this real estate lobby driven nonsense will continue to plague us. The only solution in our lifetimes will be for more people of integrity to get involved with the Republican party at the caucus level and push for ethical reform from within. We can start that right here in Leg 8 by finding a competent and honest candidate to challenge Froerer and his true constituents - the Real Estate manipulators and GOP bosses.<BR/><BR/>Kick the Bums out!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7588057111495513132.post-36488018682819172722008-01-29T12:12:00.000-08:002008-01-29T12:12:00.000-08:00Great work Minor Machman!The property owners in th...Great work Minor Machman!<BR/><BR/>The property owners in the State of Utah owe you a huge debt of gratitude for your time and effort in researching these complicated issues.<BR/><BR/>What you have written here in answer to representative Froerer should be read by every single property owner and voter in Legislative district eight. <BR/><BR/>The real question is just who he represents, us or the realtor interests. And make no mistake about it, regardless of what the real estate industry would like us to believe, their interests are not the same as ours!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com